Worldlog Hafta 42 – 2009


16 Ekim 2009

Gecen hafta Kopenhagen sehrinde iklim degisikligi konulu konferans verildi ve burada tekrar ettigim konu et tükketimini azamiye indirgemek oldu ve Hollandada’da bu konuyu dile getirecegim. Mecliste meclis üyeleri tarafindan sakayla karsilandi buradan birkac bölüm göstermek istiyorum:

Maliye Bakani Bos:
Baskan, sonucta Bayan Thiemenin simdiye kadar vejiteryanla ilgili söylediklerine katiliyorum. Neyaziki bunlar kabinenin idaresinde degil.

Milletvekili Van der Ham (D66):
Bayan Thieme’ye karsi söz kullaniyor et tüketimi konusunda. Siz ikinizde vejiteryansiniz. Ben ise degilim. Ben et yemeyi cok seviyorum, fakat sunu iyi bulurdum eger kabinenin idaresi bunu bir idare olarak görürse ve pahali tüketim olan eti tesvik etmis olur.

Maliye Bakani Bos:
Bayan Thieme ile beraber calismamiz esnasinda maliye bakanliginin devlet sekreteri calisma aninda vardigi nokta vergi konusu, yani budemek oluyor ki et vergisini yükseltmek göz önüne alinmali.

Milletvekili Van der Ham (D 66):
Tabi ki siz vejiteryan oldugunuz icin mutlusunuz konu akkinda, fakat et tüketen bir kisi olarak bende mutluyum bu konuda.

Maliye Bakani Bos:
Sacinizin uzamasini istiyorsaniz vejiteryan olunuz, Bay Van der Ham.

Meclis Baskani:
Mümkün oldugu kadar et vergisi bütün acikligiyla gündeme geldi, bu yeni bir sey degil.

Basbakan Balkenende:
Baskan, son söylediginiz bu aciklamaya katiliyorum, hatirladigim kadariyla, bu konu hakkinda söz vermistim.

Meclis Baskani:
Evet.

Basbakan Balkenende:
Bu ikisi arasinda bir cekisme olmasin Bayan Thieme ve Bay Bos hakkinda , bu demokratik bir proces olmuyor.

Meclis baskani:
Sizinle hem fikirdeyim.

Bu tartismalar gösteriyor’ki et tüketimini yok edemeyiz ne parlementodan ne de Hollandadan. Bu olanaksizdi ta ki Hayvan koruma partisinin kazanmasina kadar.

Bu hafta Hollandanin kolonisi olan Sürüname ülkesinin grup ve meclis baskanlariyla bir araya geldim. Yanlis anlasmalara dikkat cekmek ve suistimalere yer vermemek icin altin madenlerini Iamgold ve doga bölgesi olan Brokopondo. Bütün alan olan Rosebeld Gold Mines 170 km olan bir alani kaplamaktadir Brokopondo bölgesinin. Buradaki altin madenlerinde 1200 isci calismaktadir ve ayni zamanda burada kamplarda barinmaktadirlar.
Bu iscilerin cogu 10 gün durmaksizin arka arkaya calismaktadirlar bunlar ya 4 gün serbest ve veya 14 gün calisan 7 gün serbest kaliyorlar burada bir köyde kahve kampi olarak bilinmektedir.

Burada basi bos dolasan sokak köpekleri oldugu söyleniyor ve bu kamplarda dolasanlar öldürülüyor, tehlikeli maddeler kullanilmaktadir bunlardan kwik ve siyanid cok tehlikeli maddeler bunlar altin ve demir parcalarini birbirinden ayirmakta kullaniliyor, Mamanakreek ve St Pieterskreek kirlenmelerine yol acmaktadir. Bu bir rahatsiz edici bir haber cevre icin, altin madenine ziyaret etmem gerekiyor ve cikan problemlerin halledilmesi gerekiyor. Eger bize yardimci olacak ve bu konu üzerine bilgi vermek istiyorsaniz ictenlikle acigim.

Haftaya görüsmek üzere hosca kalin!

Last week in the run-up to the Climate Conference in Copenhagen I again argued for reduced meat consumption to be put on the Netherlands’ climate agenda. That resulted in a humorous exchange with members of the cabinet. Here is an extract of that exchange:

Minister Bos of Finance:
Speaker. To conclude. I wholeheartedly agree with everything Ms. Thieme has said about vegetarians. Unfortunately, it is not yet cabinet policy.

Member of Parliament Van der Ham (D66):
You made a comment to Ms. Thieme about meat consumption. You are both vegetarians. I am not. And even though I really enjoy eating meat, I would certainly support a cabinet policy that stimulated sustainable meat consumption, for example through taxation. Have I understood correctly that cabinet deliberations will also examine that possibility?

Minister Bos of Finance:
Ms. Thieme and I worked together in collusion and have seen to it that a meat tax will be one of the available options when the State Secretary for Finance considers amendments to a new taxation system.

Member of Parliament Van der Ham (D66):
I can understand that you, as a vegetarian, are delighted with this news but I, as a meat-eater, also applaud it.

Minister Bos of Finance:
Vegetarianism is good for hair growth, Mr. Van der Ham.

The Speaker:
Any future meat tax was discussed openly here in the House and therefore this is not news and neither has there been any question of collusion.

Prime Minister Balkenende:
Speaker. I am pleased to note your last comment because, if I recall correctly, I gave the undertaking that the Secretary of State for Finance would study the option.

The Speaker:
Yes.

Prime Minister Balkenende:
Then we mustn’t pretend that this has been some kind of bilateral effort between Ms. Thieme and Mr. Bos. That would undermine the democratic process.

The Speaker:
I concur entirely.
This might all seem a rather insignificant side-track debate, but it shows that the reduction of meat consumption is clearly on the political agenda in the Netherlands. And that would have been inconceivable before the arrival of the Party for the Animals.

This week I, together with all parliamentary group leaders, am going to visit the former Dutch colony of Surinam. While there I will call for attention to the abuses going on at the Iamgold gold mines in the nature reserve surrounding Brokopondo. The entire Rosebel Gold Mines area covers no less than 170 kilometres in the region of Brokopondo. Around 1200 people are employed at the mines and live in a large camp on the grounds. The majority of these workers work ten days in succession followed by four days off or 14 days in succession followed by seven days off. There is one village on the grounds of the mining company: Nieuw Koffiekamp.

There are reports of stray dogs being killed on the grounds, use of hazardous substances such as mercury and/or cyanide for separating the gold from the ore, and pollution of the Mamanari creek and St. Pieters creek. Since we have received a considerable number of reports about the environmental damage, I will be visiting the gold mine to discuss these problems. If anyone has any other information that could help us get to the bottom of what’s going on at the Surinam gold mines, I’d really appreciate hearing from you.

Until next week!